Next pitcher, gets a pop up to right that scores the tying run. then a ground out.

Jim Johnson=hold

Next pitcher=Blown save.

Example: a reliever can allow 2 runs in only 1/3 IP every time and be awarded a save, thats a run average of over 54. Like Chris Perez. ]]>

A compromise would be RBIs as a % of runners on base/in scoring position. Opportunities like another post mentioned.

]]>(Stop mumbling about Kevin Gregg and Matt Capps. There are exceptions to every rule)

]]>Sure, Phillips had over 100 RBI last year, but how many men did he leave on base? How many more would he have had if he were a better hitter? How many more runs would the team have scored if his OBP were 40 points higher?

]]>The stats themselves are what they are. To call the stat “flawed” is just not right.

]]>Here is an extreme hypothetical example:

“Batter A” is a .300 hitter and also hit 30 HRs–but nobody ever is on base when he comes up to bat. As a result, he has 30 RBI on the year.

“Batter B” has the same batting average and HR total but miraculously always comes up to bat with the bases loaded. He has 120 RBI just on the home runs alone.

Church’s real-world example is the Reds’ Brandon Phillips and Joey Votto–Phillips is not as good a hitter as Votto but had more RBI because of batting order. (Phillips benefitted from Choo and Votto getting on base a lot and so had a lot more RBI chances than Votto did.)

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