The Marlins offer to Pujols was less than $200 million

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We heard in the wee hours this morning that the Marlins had made a nine-year offer to Albert Pujols.  Shock! Dismay! Excitement!

And now we hear from Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald that the offer was for less than $200 million.  Which means that it was almost certainly less than the $22 million a year offer the Cardinals have long been thought to have on the table for Pujols.

Which makes me continue to think that with Jose Reyes, Albert Pujols and everyone else the Marlins talk to, the strategy is to be able to create the impression that they’re trying to do big things but that, in reality, they’re just screwing around. You’re not going to pry Pujols away from the Cardinals with comparable dollars. He’s comfortable there and can take advantage of all manner of opportunities and conveniences there that he will not be able to take advantage of if he joins a new team. You gotta make it worth his while, and a <$22M/year offer isn’t that.

When you’re the Marlins — coming off a losing season and looking  to build some credibility in the market — you gotta go big or go home.  Thus far, they don’t seem to be going big.

Giants, Cardinals reportedly have offers on the table for Giancarlo Stanton

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We’re entering what is typically one of the slowest news weeks in the baseball calendar. Occasionally some big free agents sign around now. For example, it was 20 years ago today Andres Galarraga signed with the Braves, and I still remember being in an airport on the way home to visit my parents when I heard the news. I’m an old man.

The biggest news that is likely to happen this offseason is Giancarlo Stanton being traded. That hasn’t happened yet, but here are the latest bits of news on that:

Jon Morosi of MLB Network reports that the Cardinals have made a formal trade offer to the Marlins for Stanton. No word what they’re offering, but the clubs have been in discussion for some time and it has been reported that the Marlins are the most interested in doing a deal with St. Louis due to the prospects they could send to Miami. There is a sense, however, that Stanton would be hesitant to approve a trade to the Cardinals because he prefers to play on the West Coast;

The Giants play on the west coast, and over the weekend they were reported to be the “most aggressive team” in trade talks for Stanton at the moment. Ken Rosenthal reports that the Giants have likewise made an offer. Their farm system is nowhere near as stocked as that of the Cardinals, so it’s unclear whether they have the prospects to make Miami happy. They could, of course, eat a lot of Stanton’s $295 million contract to make up for that, of course, but (a) doing so would put them over the luxury tax; and (b) the Marlins no doubt want to spur a rebuild with a Stanton trade, so if they can’t get some blue chip prospects back in return, what’s the point?

UPDATE: Who knows if this is anywhere close to enough — I’m guessing not — but this is what the Giants reportedly have on the table:

Anyway, that’s where we are as we begin Thanksgiving week.