If the Phillies get Pence, it’ll be because they overpaid for him

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Every trade deadline there’s a guy whose name I get tired of typing and this year it’s Hunter Pence.  I thought it would be Beltran, but that was over rather painlessly. But Pence, yeah, I really am getting tired of typing it.

Anyway, Jon Heyman has an update on the Pence-to-Philly chatter.  You’ll recall that the Phillies were trying to swing a deal involving prospects Jarred Cosart, Jonathan Singleton.  Heyman says, however, that the Astros have an “unreasonable” asking price.  In a later tweet he said that if the Phillies threw Domonic Brown that a deal could get done, so presumably that’s the benchmark for unreasonability.

We probably have three different threads going with Hunter Pence talk right now, but it’s probably worth noting once again that Brown plus prospects seems like a really steep price for Pence. It’d be one thing if the Phillies were fighting for their playoff life or something, but they could stand completely pat and cruise at the moment, making paying such a price too great.

Ruben Amaro is sharp. He has to know this.  I almost wonder if he’s just trying to sucker another team like Atlanta into paying too much for Pence.  Of if he has some crazy kung-fu move planned that has him ending up with, like, a reincarnated Eddie Matthews in the deal somehow.

Mets, Orioles have discussed a Matt Harvey trade

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Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Orioles and Mets have discussed a trade for Matt Harvey.

Rosenthal says the discussions have involved a reliever going back to New York and observes that that Harvey and Brad Brach are projected for similar salaries in their final arbitration years which could make a financial match.

There have been a handful of Harvey rumors over the past couple of days, with a report coming out yesterday that the Mets have spoken with at least two teams about their fallen ace. Jon Heyman said today that the Rangers may have been one of those teams. Maybe the Orioles are the second or, perhaps, the third?

All if this has to be pretty deflating if you’re a Mets fan, given the promise and dominance Harvey showed before injuries waylaid him the past two seasons. Harvey is still just 28 but he made only 18 starts and one relief appearance last year, posting a 6.70 ERA with a 67/47 K/BB ratio in 92.2 innings.

If the Mets can’t find a trade partner this winter, they’ll clearly hope for him to rebound at least a little bit in 2018, allowing him to regain some trade value.