Revisiting the player of the 1990s discussion


bonds pirates.jpgSince my Ken Griffey Jr. retirement piece received so much feedback…
After the 1999 season, Ken Griffey Jr. was famously named the Player of the Decade by the players themselves, as part of the MLBPA’s Players Choice Awards. No balloting was ever announced, so we don’t know how close the vote was. The choice garnered quite a bit of publicity at the time, making it the only Players Choice Award to ever really do so. The MLBPA still hands them out every year, with Albert Pujols collecting Player of the Year awards after each of the last two seasons. Interestingly, there was no vote after last year to select a player of the aughts.
But this is about the 1990s. Let’s look at the players who should have considered along with Griffey for the award.
Ranked by OPS+, here’s a list of the top 10 hitters from the 1990s (minimum 1,000 games)
1. Barry Bonds – 179 – .302/.434/.602, 361 HR, 1,076 RBI, 343 SB in 1,434 games
2. Mark McGwire – 172 – .268/.411/.615, 405 HR, 956 RBI, 9 SB in 1,221 games
3. Frank Thomas – 169 – .320/.440/.573, 301 HR, 1,040 RBI, 28 SB in 1,371 games
4. Jeff Bagwell – 159 – .304/.416/.545, 263 HR, 961 RBI, 158 SB in 1,317 games
5. Edgar Martinez – 154 – .322/.430/.532, 196 HR, 750 RBI, 38 SB in 1,295 games
6. Ken Griffey Jr. – 152 – .302/.384/.581, 382 HR, 1,091 RBI, 151 SB in 1,408 games
7. Albert Belle – 150 – .299/.376/.581, 351 HR, 1,099 RBI, 172 SB in 1,336 games
8. Gary Sheffield – 145 – .294/.401/.517, 227 HR, 763 RBI, 143 SB in 1,189 games
9. Larry Walker – 142 – .313/.390/.571, 262 HR, 851 RBI, 189 SB in 1,278 games
10. Rafael Palmeiro – 139 – .299/.375/.534, 328 HR, 1,068 RBI, 67 SB in 1,526 games

That’s a list of the decade’s best hitters. Not quite making the cut was Juan Gonzalez, who had 339 homers and 1,068 RBI but a 137 OPS+.
As for the best players, there are a few more names that have to be considered:
Mike Piazza – 156 – .328/.391/.575, 240 HR, 768 RBI, 13 SB in 981 games
Barry Larkin – 126 – .303/.388/.466, 137 HR, 639 RBI, 266 SB in 1,293 games
Craig Biggio – 125 – .297/.386/.441, 136 HR, 641 RBI, 319 SB in 1,515 games
Roberto Alomar – 122 – .308/.382/.460, 135 HR, 732 RBI, 311 SB in 1,421 games
Ivan Rodriguez – 106 – .300/.337/.465, 144 HR, 621 RBI, 60 SB in 1,169 games
And let’s not forget the pitchers. This time, I’ll sort by ERA+, with a minimum of 1,200 innings pitched
1. Greg Maddux – 162 – 176-88, 2.54 ERA, 1,764 Ks in 2,395 IP
2. Pedro Martinez – 156 – 107-50, 2.83 ERA, 1,534 Ks in 1,359 IP
3. Roger Clemens – 152 – 152-89, 3.02 ERA, 2,101 Ks in 2,178 IP
4. Randy Johnson – 141 – 150-75, 3.14 ERA, 2,538 Ks in 2,063 IP
5. David Cone – 135 – 141-85, 3.21 ERA, 1,928 Ks in 2,017 IP
6. Kevin Appier – 131 – 120-90, 3.47 ERA, 1,494 Ks in 1,868 IP
7. Mike Mussina – 130 – 136-66, 3.50 ERA, 1,325 Ks in 1,772 IP
8. Tom Glavine – 129 – 164-87, 3.21 ERA, 1,465 Ks in 2,228 IP
9. Kevin Brown – 128 – 143-98, 3.25 ERA, 1,581 Ks in 2,211 IP
10. Curt Schilling – 126 – 99-79, 3.31 ERA, 1,561 Ks in 1668 IP
Those are our candidates for player of the 1990s offers. Only one pitcher can really be considered. Maddux not only had the best ERA+ of the decade, but he also threw 167 more innings than anyone else in the 1990s.
Here’s how Bill James’ Win Shares system rated the players for the decade:
1. Barry Bonds – 351
2. Craig Biggio – 287
3. Frank Thomas – 273
4. Jeff Bagwell – 263
5. Ken Griffey Jr. – 261
6. Rafael Palmeiro – 244
7. Roberto Alomar – 243
8. Barry Larkin – 242
9. Mark McGwire – 234
10. Greg Maddux – 231
And how WAR sees it:
1. Barry Bonds – 85.2
2. Ken Griffey Jr. – 65.9
3. Roger Clemens – 63.2
4. Greg Maddux – 61.1
5. Jeff Bagwell – 59.6
6. Frank Thomas – 54.3
7. Barry Larkin – 51.7
7. Craig Biggio – 51.7
9. Edgar Martinez – 49.9
10. Randy Johnson – 49.5
I think I like WAR’s list better than one generated by Win Shares, but pretty much any way one looks at it, Bonds was the decade’s best. He had 50 points of OBP and 20 points of slugging percentage on Griffey despite playing in a significantly harsher offensive environment. Griffey does make up some of it defensively, but only some. Bonds was an excellent defensive left fielder in his prime, and Griffey’s defense faded as the decade went on. If the talent gap between the AL and NL was as big in the 1990s as it was in the aughts, there could be a real argument between the two. However, the leagues seemed pretty evenly matched back then, even as the Yankees started treating the World Series as their birthright in the second half of the decade.
WAR’s assertion that Clemens was better than Maddux seems misguided to me, though Maddux did get a lot more help from his defense. Personally, I’d go with a top five of Bonds, Maddux, Griffey, Biggio and Thomas. Even though he spent the first two years as a catcher, Biggio played in the second-most games in the decade (behind Palmeiro). Only Bonds scored more runs than his 1,042. Some would argue that Alomar was the better player, but Biggio did have the slight edge offensively in OPS+ and he played in almost 100 more games. He played in 220 more games than Larkin.
Thomas versus Bagwell is another toughie. The two were born on the same day and they’re remarkably close on three lists here. Thomas did have a substantial edge offensively, but WAR things Bagwell’s defense more than made up for it. I’m not quite so sure. Plus, Thomas did play in an extra 54 games.
As for Piazza, the fact that he played in just 21 games in the first three years of the decade is too much to overcome. If one instead goes from 1993-2002, he’d probably be No. 2 behind Bonds.

Orioles have reached out to Yovani Gallardo

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From Jon Heyman of CBS Sports comes word that the Orioles “like” free agent starter Yovani Gallardo and “have reached out to him” to gauge his interest in coming to Baltimore and what that might cost.

Gallardo rejected a one-year, $15.8 million qualifying offer from the Rangers earlier this month and so his free agency is tied to draft pick compensation, but that shouldn’t hurt his bottom line all that much.

The 29-year-old right-hander posted a solid 3.42 ERA in 184 1/3 innings (33 starts) this past season for Texas and he pitched well in his one ALDS start.

Heyman reported a few weeks ago that the Diamondbacks are interested, and the Cubs, Blue Jays, and Dodgers were tied to him just ahead of the July 31 trade deadline.

Cubs, Cardinals, Giants, Dodgers, and Red Sox all showing serious interest in David Price

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David Price has expressed a desire to return to Toronto, where he finished out the 2015 season, but FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal writes Wednesday that the Blue Jays “are not expected to be a major factor in his free agency.”

The teams that should be considered serious suitors, per Rosenthal, are the Cubs, Cardinals, Giants, Dodgers, and Red Sox — all deep-pocketed teams looking to contend in 2016. Money is apparently the issue for the Blue Jays, who are currently owned by Rogers Communications.

Price registered an outstanding 2.45 ERA, 1.076 WHIP, and 225/47 K/BB ratio in 220 1/3 innings (32 starts) this past season between the Tigers and Jays, finishing second in the American League Cy Young Award race behind Dallas Keuchel of the Astros.

The 30-year-old left-hander is probably looking for a six- or seven-year contract worth more than $25 million per season. He is represented by agent Bo McKinnis.

Marlins have begun extension talks with Dee Gordon

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Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald wrote three weeks ago that the Marlins were probably going to explore an extension this winter with second baseman Dee Gordon. And it sounds like those talks are underway.

Via beat writer Joe Frisaro of

As a guest on MLB Network’s “Hot Stove” show Wednesday morning, Gordon confirmed his camp has been in talks with the Marlins regarding a multiyear deal. A source told that the discussions are preliminary and have just recently started.

“My agent is doing the talking,” Gordon said on the show. “They’re just keeping me in the loop. I think it’s going pretty well right now. We’ll see how that goes. I’m just playing the waiting game. We’re going to do the right thing.”

The 27-year-old carries three more seasons of salary arbitration, so there’s no real rush to get something done before next spring. Gordon carries quite a bit of leverage after posting a career-best .333/.359/.418 slash line in 145 games this past season for the Fish. He led all major leaguers in hits (205) and stolen bases (58).

Braves sign Bud Norris to one-year contract

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Bud Norris has found a home for his attempt at a bounceback season, signing a one-year deal with the Braves. Jon Heyman of says it’s worth $2.5 million, which is a huge cut from his $8.8 million salary this year.

Norris had established himself as a solid mid-rotation starter from 2009-2014, but had a brutal 2015 season split between the Orioles and Padres with a 6.72 ERA in 83 innings and a late-season move to the bullpen.

In announcing the signing the Braves referred to Norris as a starting pitcher, so joining the rotation for a rebuilding team gives him a chance to get his career back on track with an eye on hitting the open market as a free agent again next offseason. And if he fares well, the Braves could use him to add a prospect or two at the trade deadline.