What They're Saying About Dave Trembley getting fired


Dave Trembley 2.jpgIt just became official a little over an hour ago, but its been rumbling for a couple of days now.  Here are some of the early reactions to the Orioles 86ing Dave Trembley:

  • Camden Chat: Dave Trembley wasn’t the greatest manager.  He wasn’t the worst.  He managed some good games and he dogged some bad ones. But the motherf—– had his moments, yes he f—— did . . . We’ve been as bad as many of the worst teams in baseball, but under Trembley we weren’t a sad joke like the Royals under Hillman.
  • Maury Brown: Orioles will have now had five managers in ten years
    when Samuel is announced as the interim manager today. Yes, the problem is clearly the
    manager with the O’s

  • Jorge Arangure: So let’s
    see: Mazzilli first time manager, Perlozzo first time manager, Trembley first time
    manager. Hmm maybe it’s time to bring in a guy with experience?

  • Jesse Spector (responding to Arangure): Rather than a manager with experience, how about a
    roster with a chance?

  • Tyler Kepner: Random thought from an ’83 Phils nerd: Juan
    Samuel, new O’s skipper, is now the only guy who manages a team
    that beat him in the World Series.

  • Orioles Post: It’s too bad that it has come to this, but with the team’s performance,
    piss-poor record and fan discontentment, something has to be done. The
    Orioles were supposed to improve in the hardest division of all baseball
    – perhaps in sports – but instead seemingly have gone backward.
  • FanHouse: Not that it’s entirely his fault by any stretch, but Trembley doesn’t
    have much room to argue. The O’s have the worst record in baseball at
    15-39 and were outscored 34-8 on their just-completed 0-6 road trip.

  • Roar from 34: During the past two decades only Mike Hargrove has lasted
    more than
    three seasons in Baltimore. In that same time frame the Orioles have had
    eight managers. Among those eight, only Davey Johnson and Johnny Oates
    have left town with winning records.

Not sure I can disagree with any of that. All in all, this is basically a textbook managerial firing: a need to do something before all of the fans jump ship, more people to blame than the manager getting axed, but not a hell of things you can do besides axe the manager.

Good luck in your future endeavors, Dave Trembley.  Here’s hoping you can return to the life of admirable organizational soldiering that got you your job as the O’s manager in the first place.  There’s no dishonor in that. Actually, there’s probably a lot more honor in that than a lot of things you can do in baseball.

Spending bill could exempt minor leaguers from federal labor laws

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Mike DeBonis of the Washington Post reports that, according to three congressional officials familiar with current talks, an upcoming spending bill could exempt minor leaguers from federal labor laws. This is an issue we have spent some time covering here. A bill proposed in 2016, H.R. 5580, would have amended language in Section 13 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 which would have made it so minor leaguers wouldn’t be protected under a law that protects hourly workers. There is also an ongoing class action lawsuit over unfair labor prospects.

As DeBonis notes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is among the representatives backing the measure. The provision specifically concerning minor leaguers didn’t appear in any of the draft spending bills, but DeBonis spoke to officials familiar with the negotiations under the condition of anonymity who said it was under serious consideration by top party leaders.

DeBonis got a comment from Minor League Baseball president Pat O’Conner. He said, “We’re not saying that [minor league pay] shouldn’t go up. We’re just saying that the formula of minimum wage and overtime is so incalculable. I would hate to think that a prospect is told, ‘You got to go home because you’re out of hours, you can’t have any extra batting practice.’ It’s those kinds of things. It’s not like factory work. It’s not like work where you can punch a time clock and management can project how many hours they’re going to have to pay for.”

O’Conner said as much in an interview back in December. It’s an extremely disingenuous deflection. O’Conner also said, “I don’t think that minor league baseball is a career choice for a player.” This is all about creating legislation that allows Minor League Baseball to keep money at the top, which is great if you’re a team owner or shareholder. If they could get away with it, every owner of every business would pay its employees as little as possible, which is why it’s important to have unions and people keeping an eye on legislation like this that attempts to strip laborers of their rights in the dead of night.

Minor league players need to unionize. Or, better yet, the MLBPA should open their doors to include minor leaguers and fight for them just as they would a player who has reached the majors. Minor leaguers should be paid a salary with which they do not have to worry about things like rent, electricity, food, and transportation. They should be provided healthcare and a retirement fund. And if anyone tries to tell you it’s not affordable, MLB eclipsed $10 billion in revenues last year. There’s plenty to go around.

The owners are banking on this legislation passing and labor still coming in excess due to young men holding onto the dream of making the major leagues. According to CNN, “far less than 10 percent of minor league players ever get the chance to make it to the major leagues.” Some of these players have forgone college to work in baseball. They arrive at the park in the morning and leave late at night, putting in far more than your standard eight-hour work day. Since their bodies are their vehicle for success, they have to exercise regularly and vigorously off the field while maintaining a healthy diet. (And teams are still reluctant to invest even the smallest amount of money to ensure their young players eat well.) Minor leaguers make tremendous sacrifices to pursue their dream and now Major League Baseball and Minor League Baseball have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying Congress to legalize taking further advantage of them.